Wesleyan Baptist

[DeaconDean]

As I understand it, Wesleyan Baptists are mainly Arminian in nature.

And they are a an interesting mix of Methodist teachings, and Baptist teachings.

Are Wesleyan Baptists a "hi-bred" of Methodists and Baptists?

And if so, where can I find a list of their "core-beliefs."

I have a member (Wesleyan Baptist) that appears to be advocating that baptism saves.

Any information would be gratefull.

God Bless

Till all are one.

[DeaconDean]

hum...nobody's ever heard of Weslyan Baptists, thats interesting.

God Bless

Till all are one.

[ThenThereWasRED]

I never heard of them. I tried google and didn't find anything either.

[DMcKay]

I thought that I had posted this before, but when I did a search the only hit I got was a Wesleyan Baptist Student union at a school in Texas.

Don M

[TrinityLives]

I dont think this answers any questions but when I googled it I received a few hits

http://www.drurywriting.com/keith/au...ion.of.sin.htm

[DeaconDean]

10 months ago, i got into a rather heated argument with a member at another forum. I noticed on their homepage they were from Pennsilvania (sp). I made the comment that "Nothern" Baptists, often have views which conflict with "Southern" Baptists.

They got offended and made the remark that they were "Wesleyan Baptist."

To be honest with you guys, I've never even heard of Wesleyan Baptists. I did some researching on the internet and the closest thing I came across was a bit article in the Wikipedia.

And it appears that they are a sort of "hy-bred" mix between Methodism and Baptists.

Now I'm a big theology student. I study as many Systematic Theologies as I can my hands on. And one that I have is Systematic Theology written by Charles Hodge. Hodge was a professor at Princeton university in the late 1880's.

This person also graduated from Princeton, and being a Baptist,they should have known better, but they made the statement recently that based on 1 Pet. 3:21, baptism saves.

They were confronted and told that that sort of doctrine is "alien" to all accepted doctrines that baptists believe in. When confronted with numerous confessions, they responded that they were the only person who was even qualified to determine what was and what was not "proper Baptist doctrine."

They are young, which would account for a few things, but not all.

Given the history of Princeton, and the education of men such as Hodge, how can the apple fall so far from the tree?

Anyway, this member said they were a Wesleyan Baptist, and I was just wondering what are they and what are their doctrinal beliefs.

Thanks all.

God Bless

Till all are one.

[BibleBeliever]

I recently arranged my Mom's funeral services at a Wesleyan service after she died of cancer this past Dec. 8, so I hope people don't mind if I offer what I found about the subject from a Wesleyan website:

WHO ARE THE WESLEYANS
The Wesleyan Church is an evangelical, Protestant denomination. We offer the good news that faith in Jesus Christ makes possible a wonderful personal relationship with God, a holy life empowered by His Spirit for witness and service, and assurance of eternal life in heaven. Our ministries emphasize practical Bible teaching, uplifting worship, and special programs to meet a variety of life needs.

With World Headquarters in Fishers, Indiana, The Wesleyan Church has nearly 400,000 constituents in 5,000 churches and missions in 80 countries of the world. Formed in 1968 resulting from the mergers between several like-minded groups, dating back as far as 1843, The Wesleyan Church has its roots in John Wesley’s Methodism.
Wesleyan Source

I think that DeaconDean is right that it must be some kind of hybrid between the two religions since Wesleyan is Methodist and not Baptist.

Maybe the member on the other website invented it to describe their own personal beliefs. Maybe they are a former Wesleyan turned Baptist, but they retain some of their Wesleyan beliefs.

[DeaconDean]

Well, it does seem that there are "Wesleyan Baptists," so to speak, after all.

These members are part of a group that have combined "Holiness" dogma, and Wesleyan teachings.

A charasmatic/pentecostal-holiness/spirit-filled Methodist religion.

In 19th century America, the Holiness movement developed out the "new measures" and teachings of revivalist Charles Grandison Finney, and the Methodist emphasis of the Wesleyan teachings of holiness. John Wesley taught that holiness, or Christian perfection, was a definite and instantaneous second work of grace received by faith, and followed by gradual sanctification. Early in the 20th century, many in the Holiness movement also embraced Pentecostalism, which equated the second work of grace with the baptism of the Holy Spirit, whose outward sign was speaking in tongues. The following bodies have primary roots in the Holiness movement and secondary roots in Pentecostalism.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holines...st_Association

This should not be confused with the "Bapticostal Movement."

God Bless

Till all are one.

[intricatic]

Huh... well, that's interesting.