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Old 12-16-2007, 10:08 AM
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Hey y'all. Not to be a fly in the ointment, but I read one of Matthew Murray's rants (for those who don't know, this was the guy who shot those people at New Life Church and the YWAM campus out in Colorado) last week, and happened across something that really stood out. In one of his postings on an internet forum for ex-Pentecostals, he wrote the following:

The fact is, in YWAM, and christianity, it's all about the Beautiful People. No, it's not just "one group of bad christians" but rather....almost every group of christians except for a few open minded non-evangelical churches. If you're an extrovert, and popular, then yes, there is plenty of love waiting for you in christianity. If you ask questions and want to understand things and/or desire a real and deep spirituality, or if you're just not popular...well.......you are considered as one of the horrible people and are either going to be abused or kicked out by "holy spirit love filled" christians. it's all about......
the Beautiful People........

Not to glorify the guy at all (far be it from me to do that), but that hit home a little bit. As an introvert, I've run into similar things (not the abuse, but the "popular crowd" syndrome); and I'm pretty sure that other introverts have as well. Has anyone else experienced, or known anyone who has, experienced anything like this? Any thoughts? Comments? Concerns?

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Sadly, I'm inclined to agree.

My AWANA group was like this as was the camp I went to.

In AWANA, I felt like an outcast. Now this is partially because my friends who I had been in AWANA with for years quit or graduated from the program. Though, I also think it is because I did not go to the same high school as everyone else in our program did. About 90% of our high school group went to a home-school high school while I was in a public school. They all went to their same cliques that they were in in school. No room for outsiders. I spent more time in deep discussion with the leaders of our group and I preferred their company over my peers. Also, the majority of our members, were sons and daughters of our leadership. They grew up together, did everything together, once again, no room for outsiders.

My camp was very much the same. Many of the campers were sons and daughters of the counselors. But, my church camp also had what I call the "stereotypical Christian."

To start, nearly everyone was homeschooled. ((NOTE THAT I AM NOT AGAINST HOMESCHOOLING AS I WAS UNTIL HIGH SCHOOL))
The very fact that I was public schooled made me an outcast. Everyone said that they felt so sorry for me like I was living with the plague (and they treated me as if I did). No one bothered to ask if I liked it all. They just assumed it must be terrible. I was so angry at them for it. I tried to explain that it wasn't that bad but they thought that I must be "worldly" to say that. They couldn't understand that it was far harder for me to be a Christian and remain a Christian in a public school setting than it was for them to be in their sheltered little world's where they have never had to defend their faith at all. Instead of asking me how I did it, they shamed me because of it.

Also, all the girls were girls. I don't mean this in a "well duh" sense but again in the stereotype. The girls all had hair that was 6 feet long and worried more about appearance than anything else. Some girls even wore nothing but skirts the whole time at camp...

I am a tomboy. Needless to say, this is not me at all. I had more getting down and dirty playing frisbee and football with the boys than I did sitting on the sidelines worrying about a broken nail. Which leads me to my next point.

The vast majority of the time, our lunch tables consisted of boys at one table and girls with another. As if if we intermingled at all, the whole camp would be infected with cooties. I challenged this point by sitting at a boys table and discussing sports with them. I found it refreshing and fun!

Finally, everyone thought that one specific girl was the greatest singer to ever exist. No one could possibly be better. If you didn't agree and you didn't adore her, than you should just go die because you didn't deserve to live. Another issue I had...
I had no squabble with the girl at all. I thought she was quite nice in fact. But I've been trained in music since I was 4 years old and I know good when I hear it. And she was not. When she would volunteer to sing, I would kringe as others cheered. When asked if I liked her singing, it wasn't right to lie, so I told the truth. I've heard better.

I signed my social death sentence by telling the truth.

The fraction of outcasts at camp joined together. In a way, we formed our own clique. It wasn't that we had given up. We had put forth considerable effort to get along with everyone but we were not accepted for one reason or another.

One of my earliest memories of being in Sunday school at one of the churches I have attended is of anger. A homeless woman had wandered into the bathroom of our church in downtown Denver. Instead of our church taking her in and giving shelter from the cold and food and clothes, she was told she had to leave and that she "didn't belong."

Sadly, Christians are still human. Some Christians do make others feel like only the "beautiful people" are accepted. I know I've felt this way many times in my church, AWANA, camp. We group people. We want everything to be classified. Someone who dresses goth can't possibly be a Christian. In fact, not only are they not a Christian but they MUST be an atheist or a satanist because of the clothes they wear. Someone who dresses nicely and is kind to people must be some denomination of Christian because of how they act.

The fact is, we can't see the heart of man the way God does. All we see is appearance and actions and from that, we classify. We alienate. We create groups, disorder, pain, division and all out hatred of the Church because we do not represent it as it should be.

Instead of someone walking into church and being welcomed and loved on, we sum up their appearance and group them accordingly.

"You are not in your Sunday best but you aren't in rags either. Your Bible is on your palm pilot. Please go to the early believers class where you will be taught what is proper"
"You are wearing a beautiful suit and shoes. Your hair is perfect and your Bible is crisp. Please join the deacons and elder's in their meeting, I believe we have a position for you."
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"You wear rags and smell horrid. Your hair is tattered and Bible is torn and missing pages. We can't allow you in. Please return to the street where you belong."

Final thought, then I'll shut up. Some food for thought. There is a song by Todd Agnew, "My Jesus" which I think the Church would benefit greatly from if only they would follow it. For the whole song, click here Though, the lyrics of interest are below.

Cause my Jesus would never be accepted in my church
The blood and dirt on His feet would stain the carpet
But He reaches for the hurting and despised the proud
I think He'd prefer Beale St. to the stained glass crowd
And I know that He can hear me if I cry out loud
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yup, every social group has it cliques and its popular people, church is no different. It used to bother me when i was younger because i have always been rather quiet and introverted so naturally found it hard to make friends. but i've come to realize life still has a way of panning out even if the "cool kids" completely reject you.

God made us who we are for a reason and He brings people in and out of our lives for a reason, even those who we don't get along with. Usually thats for spiritual refinement and teaching us how to be stronger and better Christians and to depend on Him more. The thought of being part of a clique now actually annoys me, i have become rather independent and i think thats a major part of why i've become independent and more of a free thinker because i really wasn't part of the "cool" crowd when i was younger. i've learned not to let the cliques/groups i belong to validate who i am as a person. I love my family and i love my friends, i'm not saying i'm a hermit and am shunning people entirely or anything, but i do think i'm a better person for everything i did go through, rejection and all, even if i didn't see a positive to it at the time. God has a way of using everything.

The problems come in when you start taking all the bad stuff thats happened and dwelling on them and those memories and experiences become a poison. Its easy enough to do but its part of the testing period. We can either turn inward and become a martyr and blame all of our problems on others to the point where, like Murray, we're so gripped by that hatred and bitterness we have to take it out on others whether they deserve it or not. Or we can recognize that even during our saddest and hardest times God is still sovereign and He is still a God of love who keeps His promises to His children when He promised in His word to turn everything around for good for those that love Him.And just hand those things over to Him and through His strength (because sometimes it is just impossible through our own) learn to forgive those who have hurt us and let go of that anger and bitterness.

Life is entirely too short to be expending the kind of energy people like Murray do on hating others and there is always a better choice in those situations, maybe not the easiest according to our human minds and our limited strength but certainly a better one.
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