Dr. Dobson voting for McCain?

[mbgb]

Just thought I'd share. I have issues with Dobson's views on "how a Christian should act" but I understand. I listen to him and I feel he used to be very "right on" with his Christian views, but I am beginning to wonder now. Obama still scares the heck out of me no matter what.

Also, McCain's anger is a God-given trait. On the same radio station that plays James Dobson all day, they had a preacher on there who talked about how society views anger as such a "bad thing" these days, but how God himself gets VERY angry, and we are created in the image of God. If anger is used in the correct mindset and under Godly submission, I feel it is a very necessary trait to have if you are going to fight for God's word on this Earth. I maintain my stance that McCain is just passionate though. I know no one will ever completely agree or see eye to eye, but come on, Obama said that we need to not let religion split us as a country. His focus is completely skewed. That is true, but you need to be basing every single move you make on your "Christian" walk, and therefore, your actions do not reflect to me a true Christian relationship with Jesus Christ our Savior in general. That was a really "sweet" secular thing to say, but you are clearly allowing all things not of God to occur. No thanks. I am not saying this in a judgemental way, but I am sure it will be viewed as such by someone. I just am tired of Obama (among others in my everyday life) who claim to be a Christian, but their actions reflect no constant, daily submission to God...because their actions are not of God, it is obvious.

Anyway, sorry for my rant becoming the subject. Here's Dobson's stance on McCain.

Dobson shifts positions, may endorse McCain - Yahoo! News

[Pete Martinez]

/shrug I haven't believed in secular politics for quite a while, I do believe in this though...

2 Timothy 2:1-I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, [and] giving of thanks, be made for all men;
2 Timothy 2:2-For kings, and [for] all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty.

And the entire chapter of Romans 13, which instructs us to obey civil authority and government (except when obeying them causes us to disobey God) and to pay our taxes.

[mbgb]

Good point Pete. Thanks for sharing. That confirms what I thought would have been right concerning decisions about voting. Even the Bible tells us to be wary of the actions of our leaders, and not to just blindly follow them because they claim to be Christian or because they are for the Party we say we are a member of.

People give independents a hard time, but I feel that they are actually obeying God more by allowing themselves to vote how He persuades them to vote. I personally will vote for McCain based on that, that I asked God about it. I wish we would all do that, maybe we do...and I am just not aware. Your party should never overshadow your Christianity, speaking as a Christian. I tend to vote Republican, but if I felt a dem. was who God led me to vote for, I'd vote for him/her.

Oh well, politics, politics. I could go on and on, and I'm sure ruffle feathers all along the way, unintentionally of course.

[intricatic]

The entire idea that we shouldn't let religion split us up as a country is absurd ecumenical rubbish. Since when should politicians care about whether we're split up in religious groups? Seriously. It's a call for unity that makes no sense in a political context.

[Timothy]

It all depends. There's a difference between: All religions must come together to work together and believe together and 'Don't build up walls between your religion and others in your community.' Not letting religion split you as a country could actually be intended to be a good thing. Working together as a whole community of people was, after all, as I understand it, what the writers of the Constitution intended. No political or legal divides between Protestants, Catholics, rather a community of free people joined together working together to make a great nation, regardless of ethnicity or belief. God doesn't intend us to be in our nice happy megachurch cities where you don't meet anyone who doesn't believe in or follow Jesus on a daily basis--being out there in the world, working together, pulling together with non-Christians is exactly what following Jesus is all about, and if we're putting up boundaries because of religion, then we've got a serious problem. If we're prejudging people because they're Catholic, Muslim, Orthodox or Protestant... then I think we have a problem.

[silentpoet]

Dobson can endorse McCain if he wants, I still ain't voting for him. Our right to vote was bought with precious blood and sacrifice. I cannot dishonor that by compromising my principles. I am, as of now, voting for Baldwin. He is the only candidate who seems to truly share my values. It is a matter of conscience and each man or woman voting should only do the same. They should search themselves after praying for guidance. If they do that and then vote for a given candidate then that is all that a man can ask. As for me, I stand by my principles.

[imluvd]

Originally Posted by silentpoet

Dobson can endorse McCain if he wants, I still ain't voting for him. Our right to vote was bought with precious blood and sacrifice. I cannot dishonor that by compromising my principles. I am, as of now, voting for Baldwin. He is the only candidate who seems to truly share my values. It is a matter of conscience and each man or woman voting should only do the same. They should search themselves after praying for guidance. If they do that and then vote for a given candidate then that is all that a man can ask. As for me, I stand by my principles.

Good for you!

[Annie]

i still say, if i were American, i'd write in my vote for Pedro.

but yeah its good to see people thinking things through, SP. Its sad but it seems like a lot of people in North America (i'm throwing Canadians in to this too ) allow others to sway them in deciding who to vote for, be it their pastor, friends, family, or celebrities like Dobson. As if their opinions were infallible truth. It doesn't hurt to talk things out or to listen to arguments on the issues but ultimately it is *your* vote and yours alone and only *you* can decide where it goes. Its important to think it through carefully before placing it.

[silentpoet]

I don't think Dobson is bad to listen to on the matter of family relations. In that area he is a subject matter expert. Just like Spielberg is an expert on making popular movies. If I wanted to make a movie I would listen to Spielberg. I were trying to raise my children in a Godly manner I would certainly listen to and learn from Mr. Dobson. I do not expect either to offer very useful guidance on the matter of who would be best to vote for.

I do believe McCain is a better choice than Obama, but I think almost anybody would be a better choice. However I do not believe a man who compromises on the constitution is worthy of my vote. So I cannot vote for either Obama or McCain.

[mbgb]

Interesting points guys. Yep, the system definitely isn't perfect. I am just such a big fan of McCain for some reason. I just wish people who were Christians would ask God who He wanted them to vote for, then do His will. That's all I would ask. But some people don't even wish for that.

I always tend to ruffle feathers somehow when I talk politics. So I'll stop. But please make sure you pray before you vote, that you would vote for the candidate God would have you vote for. I did that, and my vote was completely changed by that. It came out of the blue, and was not who I had intended to vote for originally.

I'll say a prayer:
Dear Lord,
Please guide everyone who has a voting decision coming up, whether it is for President, minister, or who is in charge of taking out the trash today...please let us seek Your desire for our lives. Please let us seek to vote how You would have us vote. May we all come closer to you each day and honor Your name. In Jesus' name I pray, Amen.