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Old 02-28-2008, 08:50 PM
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Hello, my name is Jennifer and I am a parent with a daughter who has just recently come out gay. I just recently found out, along with everyone else in the family. We are for the most part a devout Christian family, but my daughter has for some time strayed away, and has recently become very anti-Christian. Everyone was afraid something like this was going to happen. She has recently declared herself a "feminist" which really worries me. I honestly don't know what to do. I tried going to her school, but her school promotes her lifestyle, and she now simply refuses to go to Church, so I feel that is not an option. Can you guys help?
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Her story isn't over! God is still at work in her, to draw her to Himself. The seeds that you have planted have not died. They are simply dormant.

While it must be heartbreaking to see her make the choices she's making right now, remember that her sins are no worse than other sins. The thing that matters is that she is choosing to walk away from God, but God has not walked away from her!

Pray for God to minister His love to her, in ways that she can hear, experience, and accept. Pray that you will be able to communicate how much God loves her, and how much you love her, while, at the same time, disagreeing with her sin, with her chosen life style, because it is deadly. In Christ, you can communicate, and live, the fact that you cannot love and accept her any more; while never accepting her choice of death over life.

I'm praying for you, and for your daughter.

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Jennifer, First I am sorry for your pain and will include your family in my prayers. Michael is right, God is still working here. Don't give up, cry out to Him, over and over and over. He loves your daughter even more than you do, He can do the impossible, He can bring her back to Him. She has probably walked away from God and christianity bc she finds it painful right now. You don't have to agree with her choices to still love her and show her your love. Ask God to give you peace and comfort in knowing that He is working, ask Him for guidance as to how to deal with this painful revelation. But know that you have not failed. Look how God's children have walked away from Him yet we don't consider it His failure. The LORD can and will get you through this.
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JennForDelano,
The others are right. Please do not feel like you have failed as a parent. This world is full of all kinds of temptations. The devil makes flashy, shiny things for us to get distracted with so we'll go away from God and be convinced He does not exist. Your daughter is still God's child, whom He loves. We will be praying.

I don't know if this is too controversial, but I've been thinking lately. I know we are told to not mix with unbelievers and those who continue to sin...and so on, but I honestly interpret from the Bible that in certain cases this statement is only for those whose faith is not strong enough. Those who do have a truly strong faith are aware of that and know to ask God for guidance, and sometimes He may tell you to not go against His word, but the laws that Earthly people try to instill upon you about the Bible. Ask God for guidance. I believe truly loving your daughter as Christ loves the church will be your best bet...and to continue to pray for her every day. When you feel ready, I think you should go to her school, and treat her with love only. Not with emotion, but love. I would also just continue to live by example. Keep God at the top of your pyramid of importances in your life, and everything else will fall into place. If you are more concerned with your daughter, maybe you need to focus on God right now and get strength from Him and go to Him in prayer asking how you need to handle this very difficult situation. He definitely knows how difficult this is for you.

I don't know where your daughter's life will lead her, or if she will ever decide to not be gay anymore openly (not meaning to cause an argument), but if you continue to live a life of example and pray for her, I am sure that she will see and believe in God and that He loves her, and that Jesus did die for her sins as well as yours. And if she truly falls in love with Jesus, she won't want to sin anymore. We can't change anyone, I have learned that over this past year, and we can definitely pray. Only God can change anyone. And God speaks through us and changes lives, often through us. So allow God to work in you and through you. Let Him be an example through you.

God bless you. I am praying.
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She now claims she's a Wiccan. Does anyone on this forum know what that exactly is? Is it some feminist religion?
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From what I've heard, it's a type of witchcraft. People believe that they can become gods, if my memory serves my correctly.
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From what I've heard, it's a type of witchcraft. People believe that they can become gods, if my memory serves my correctly.
Oh my god! Then my daughter now believes she can become a God? What can I do? First a lesbian and a feminist...now this?!
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Jennifer, Here is some of what I found on the internet. You may want to start a thread asking about this practice, as I believe there are at least a few that have family members that have been through it or have researched it. It almost seems as if she is trying to shock you and see how far she can push you before you walk away. Still praying, T

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wicca

Wicca is one variety of pagan witchcraft, with distinctive ritual forms, seasonal observances and religious, magical[4] and ethical precepts. Other forms of witchcraft exist within many cultures, with widely varying practices. Many Wiccans, though not all, call themselves Pagans, though the umbrella term Paganism encompasses many faiths that have nothing to do with Wicca or witchcraft. Wicca has also been described as a Neopagan or a Mesopagan path.[5] Because there is no centralised organisation in Wicca, and no single orthodoxy, the beliefs and practices of Wiccans can vary substantially, both among individuals and among traditions. Typically, the main religious principles, ethics, and ritual structures are shared, since they are key elements of traditional teachings and published works on the subject.

As practised by initiates in the lineage of Gerald Gardner, Wicca is a variety of witchcraft founded on religious and magical concepts. As such it is distinguished not only by its beliefs, but by its practice of magic, its ethical philosophy, initiatory system, organisational structure and secrecy.[6] Some of these beliefs and practices have also been adopted by others outside of this lineage, often termed Eclectic Wiccans, who generally discard the institutions of initiation, secrecy and hierarchy, and have more widely varying beliefs. Some Eclectic Wiccans neither perform magic nor identify as witches. Within traditional forms of Wicca there are three degrees of initiation. First degree is required to become a witch and gain membership of a coven; those who aspire to teach may eventually undergo second and third degree initiations, conferring the title of "High Priest" or "High Priestess" and allowing them to establish new covens.[6] At initiation, some Wiccans adopt a craft name to symbolise their spiritual "rebirth", to act as a magical alter-ego, or simply to provide anonymity when appearing as a witch in public
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It almost seems as if she is trying to shock you and see how far she can push you before you walk away.
I have to agree with UHW, it seems like she is trying to push to see if she can make you walk away.

Keep praying for her. Let God know that you have no control in this and that He is the one that has control. You need to give it all to God. He will see your daughter thru this and you. Don't give up hope.

I'm praying for her and strength for you.
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She doesn't just claim to be a Wiccan, but also claims she believes sex with give her special powers, and that if she wants to have it to get these powers, she will! This is horrible. I tried going to her school about this, but they basically encourage and promote everything she is doing, from the feminism to the lesbianism to this wicca, and I feel I've put my daughter in harms way now. Am I a bad parent?
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