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03-24-2008, 02:22 AM
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Ian,
If it will help I have a zippy little SAMSUNG SV0813H 80 Gig ATA drive that I am about to pull out of my Tower and replace with a 120 Gig. If it will help send me an address to send it to.
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No worries, we're running on a virtual server, so it'd be kind of tricky to hook up a new hard drive to it. :shocked: ( i love this new smilie, hehe)
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03-24-2008, 02:24 AM
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Okay!
Can anyone identify this fallacy:
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"You can have all of your doctrinal positions 100% correct, and believe in all the right things, but still have a dead and disfigured heart. What's important is having faith that transforms your heart."
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I'd call it either circular logic, or a non-sequitur, since it does not follow that having "faith that transforms your heart" is somehow different than "believing in all of the right things". In theory, belief and faith tend to be basically the same thing, although they both need to be understood in practice and not as abstract concepts.
I might also say it's self-refuting, although I'm not certain what fallacy that would fall under.
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Okay!
Can anyone identify this fallacy:
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I am not convinced that there is a logical fallacy in the statement. Perhaps the terms should have been defined, believe has different connotations, but that doesn't make the statement fallacious. It just makes it unclear. Not all unclear statements are logical fallicies, just poor use of language. Now if it was an intentional unclearness it would be equivocation. |
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I have to disagree that Obama was using that fallacy.
His point was that the pastor meant as much to him as his grandmother, and that they both often made comments that bothered him- but he would not reject either of them.
I think that Obama is completely wrong, but I don't believe it is a fallacy as such.
Where am I going wrong?
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I have to disagree that Obama was using that fallacy.
His point was that the pastor meant as much to him as his grandmother, and that they both often made comments that bothered him- but he would not reject either of them.
I think that Obama is completely wrong, but I don't believe it is a fallacy as such.
Where am I going wrong?
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You can chose your pastor, you cannot chose your family. His statement was that, even though his grandmother made vague racial references that made him feel squeamish, he would not reject her. He never mentioned whether that had implication on how he was handling the situation with his pastor.
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