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Old 07-09-2007, 11:45 AM
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Gen 1:5
(5) And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
Gen 1:8
(8) And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

And so on...

Exo 20:11
(11) For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

So if the creation days are not literal, is the sabbath day not literal either?
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Old 07-09-2007, 12:34 PM
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yeah...instead of working 6 days and keeping the sabbath...maybe we're supposed to work 6 days and take the rest of our lives off???

sorry...couldn't resist that one :silly:
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This thread has definitely diverted fron the OP's intent.

BTW, I don't think there is a problem reconciling theistic evolution with scripture (philosophically). After all scripture isn't exhaustive, and wont exactly define possible naturalistic prinicples that God could have used to evolve life. The problem that I have is the lack of emperical evidence for evolution that has resulted from materialistic philosophies. Physics strongly proves the old earth position but too much is missing to prove long succesive mutations in macroevolution.
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Old 07-09-2007, 04:13 PM
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Other implications of evolution?
Well, let's look at Columbine...yeah..you read right...
One of the young men involved was quoted as saying "he doesn't deserve the jaw evolution gave him, look for it, it won't be on his body" another of hte shooters was wearing a shirt that said "Natural Selection"...
Let's look at Hitler...he actually thought he was helping evolution by getting rid of Jews...who according to some evolutionary charts were nearly pure ape...africans were next btw...

Evolution teaches these kids that they were accidents of nature, a happenstance, and that they are the "ultimate" in the universe, there is no higher being...the basis for humanism...which btw...is nearly as old as creation itself...

after all in garden did not Satan say to Eve: Gen3:5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
Today we see people falling for that same line....

You can be a god!

Those just scratch the surface of the damage evolution has done to our generations...
Yeah, many ism's can be traced back to evolution. Racism, atheism, fascism, humanism, and many more. I know many God loving Christians believe in evolution, and I mean them no disrespect, but there are certain things we can't get around. Yes, I am a yec.
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I haven't read through all of the posts, so please forgive me if I post something that has already been posted. I see it very simply. Evolution says death causes life. The Bible says sin caused death. I don't see how those two things are compatible. It would seem to take away the need for a Savior.
Romans 5:12 (AMP)
Therefore, as sin came into the world through one man, and death as the result of sin, so death spread to all men, [no one being able to stop it or to escape its power] because all men sinned.


Yes, evolution would be difficult to bond to that.

And as Gwenyfur brought up, eugenics at least may be very strongly supported by any belief system that incorporates evolution. Would anyone argue for eugenics? If not, then why not? Is what's good for the goose (the whole evolutionary process) not good for the gander (your species)?
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*ventures in* I hold to Theistic Evolution (aka., Evolutionary Creationism). *hides in the corner*
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*ventures in* I hold to Theistic Evolution (aka., Evolutionary Creationism). *hides in the corner*
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Indeed, although I don't believe in evolution I would love to welcome any genuine Christian.

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BTW, I don't think there is a problem reconciling theistic evolution with scripture (philosophically). After all scripture isn't exhaustive, and wont exactly define possible naturalistic prinicples that God could have used to evolve life.
How so? Was there an "Adam" and an "Eve"? If there is such a thing as "theistic evolution", then Adam and Eve were not actually real people.

And once someone begins "picking and choosing what's valid in the Bible", by what standard does he/she choose?
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Old 07-10-2007, 02:21 AM
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There was a literal adam and eve, the bible just didn't detail the naturalistic process in which they were created.

BTW I'm not a theistic evolutionist, but I do hold the old earth position.
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