Check-In 2

Pete56 · #**891** (**permalink**) 09-27-2008, 08:32 AM

Errr yeah, right!

Well I guess I am told then Kim! You are clearly a woman of lots of experience and i bow to that.

But I did say you should buy Wild at heart for DH, not for yourself.

Kay, that really is good news about your son, and I am glad that life is slowly returning to normal for you. I heard yesterday that the office block where I was working in Greenspoint lost its roof in the hurricane and most of the windows in the upper floors (It has 16), so they are operating from other buildings apparently!

Good to hear you are coping okay though.

Home again for the weekend - then back to Rotterdam next week *sigh*, then I get a week off on holiday.

Take care one and all.

Blessingss

seeker · #**892** (**permalink**) 09-27-2008, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete56

Well I guess I am told then Kim!

Hey Pete are you talking to me or your mum lol

. I am not trying to tell any one. I agreed with some of what you said and disagreed with some of it and had already been put off the book you actually did recomend I read (If you have a look at your post).

I don't know if a traumatic childhood and a couple of bad experiences qualify a woman as experienced but if it does then not the kind of experience I am seeking any how.

Oh and considering the context of the conversation (submission and authority), I think the wording "I bow to you" is a little odd.

Sorry if you were offended by any of my perspectives or thoughts. Your response kind of stung of a bit of mmmmm I don't know .......something

Any way....I hope every one has a groovy day

off to have some breakfast.

Kim

Pete56 · #**893** (**permalink**) 09-27-2008, 10:11 PM

Kim,

I recommended Wild at Heart - not Captivated.

Your perspectives, like everyone elses are born from your experience. Clearly I do not understand.

I was not offended by your previous comments but yur latest jab is definitely uncalled for.

But as you need this place more than I right now, I will leave you to receive the help of the others!

I hope you will not have to learn any more lessons, you seem to have been through a lot already.

May God bless guide and keep you.

Pepperoni · #**894** (**permalink**) 09-28-2008, 02:43 AM

Pete, the deliberate antagonistic tone of your posts is unnecessary--quit it. I don't know what your problem is lately but you need to take a breath and think about what you're saying and how you're saying it. None of this is helpful or constructive in any manner. If you want to have a civilized discourse then make some moves toward that end and quit putting people on the defensive. It's exhausting and it's counterproductive.

Pepperoni · #**895** (**permalink**) 09-28-2008, 02:58 AM

Well someone had to say it. The rest of you are apparently too spineless to take a stand.

cory · #**896** (**permalink**) 09-28-2008, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Pepperoni

Well someone had to say it. The rest of you are apparently too spineless to take a stand.

I guess I was too male to notice. then again I have been catching up on this list when I am tired so maybe I just missed it. Of course all the "father wound" stuff does not fit my reality so I kind of gloss over that stuff. (I understand for some it is helpful)
Anyway just want to set the record strait I am not spineless ,unobservant, perhaps callused, not spineless. But I have no problem with you calling one of us out in love if we are not treating each other well.

Perhaps this is a good time for a prayer Time out.

Father God bless this forum and this thread and all who participate in it. Let us continue to treat each other in love and with respect. Let there be peace here so that we may minister to one another and to others who come here. Thank you Father for the blessing each person here has been in my life.Thank you for the opportunity to minister and be ministered to and for the gift this forum has been to me and the learning from it I have been blessed to pass on to others in my daily life. I again ask your continued blessing on this place and all who come here, in the name of your son Jesus.

by the way I originally found this, or rather the other site before this, looking for a way to minister to the UY in my local church. That never materialized at the time however I now have one one man whom I am working with in this area and the knowledge and wisdom of you all is helping me to help him.For example I was able to advise him to quit trying to save her himself and work on being a better person himself.I know that works in many cases because it is working for me and several of you have reported the same. My Friend was stunned because he has recently been given the same instruction several times and never heard this in years past. anyway one more victim and I have the beginning of the small group I initially wanted to start.

Cory

kayd1966 · #**897** (**permalink**) 09-28-2008, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by cory

Father God bless this forum and this thread and all who participate in it. Let us continue to treat each other in love and with respect. Let there be peace here so that we may minister to one another and to others who come here. Thank you Father for the blessing each person here has been in my life.Thank you for the opportunity to minister and be ministered to and for the gift this forum has been to me and the learning from it I have been blessed to pass on to others in my daily life. I again ask your continued blessing on this place and all who come here, in the name of your son Jesus.

Amen

free4all · #**898** (**permalink**) 09-29-2008, 12:51 AM

I saw the issue as a misunderstanding between Pete and Kim. While written words are easy to misunderstand, I believe Pete's original intention was only to offer help. Most or all of us here undergo great stress from time to time, some of us lead extremely rushed lives, and then we have the added interaction of different cultures, all leading to the possibility of misunderstandings. Sometimes conflicts arise but they can usually be worked out through time and prayer.

I don't remember any name-calling before in this forum. I don't think it is appropriate or helpful.

Sometimes taking a stand is better done on our knees.

seeker · #**899** (**permalink**) 09-29-2008, 01:33 AM

I don't think Pep is name calling. I think she is just expressing her frustration at nothing being said before. I have been thinking myself for some time that OCASIONLY Pete's posts had a negative ring to them (not just towards me). She may have been a bit blunt but it is the point to what some one says (what they really mean) not the semantics that ultimately count. Pep may have been blunt but I don't think she had any ill intention at all but on the other hand Pete's post was much less blunt but it was is worded in a way so that it stings deep. I don't think that there is anything Godly about letting people who are making subtle but upsetting comments go on with out challenge as ultimately people get nervous about being open as they are expecting to be publicly mocked or belittled or they just go somewhere else where there is no one doing that.
I won't just ignore someone continually dishing me smooth or calculated ridicule and would respect it more (would respect it only) if it were frank objection or correction. Disagreements have to be aired and when they are they make everyone watching or participating feel safer as it reassures people that they won't be put into a position where if someone is making people feel uncomfortable that they will be expected to quietly just accept the sittuation when in actual fact it does hurt to get on and find someone has left something publicly scolding or has framed you in an embarrassing manner when there is no need for it. If it goes on unchecked people leave and it puts others off joining in. I just don't believe it is just between Pete and I. I have seen it towards others.That is all I have to say on it.

kim

seeker · #**900** (**permalink**) 09-29-2008, 01:45 AM

And as the newcomer it is probably best for me to find another forum. You guys have been friends for many years from what I can make out and it seems to run smoothly mostly for you. It is horrible for a normally happy group to be messed about with conflict and honestly I don't like getting embroiled in it either but getting on and getting stung every time I disagree over a book or a matter of opinion or perspective is not a an option either. Agreeing with me is not a requirement for fiendship but kindness is. Pete I do appologise for retaliating in a sarcastic manner. It was a poor choice and I did it out of hurt. I am sorry. Ok I just had that to add.

Kim